We Are Change Minnesota
Wednesday, September 30, 2009
Fox News Channels chief political correspondent Carl Cameron shared his thoughts on a variety of issues including the attacks of 9/11/2001 with We Are Change Minnesota on September 14th, 2009 in the U.S. Senate office building. Citing warnings by numerous foreign intelligence agencies, pre-9/11 warnings from Arizona FBI agent Kenneth Williams and stating quite plainly that, Its really hard to make the case that the buildings just imploded without some sort of an accelerant, Cameron said were, right to bang the drum because we dont know, what really transpired on 9/11 and that, The unanswered questions are reasons to be skeptical.
Sharing thoughts on how his reporting on the Israeli art student spy ring and executive assassination squads (subsequently revealed by Sy Hersh) have gone nowhere, he explained, There are bad guys in the government. Black Ops and stuff does happen. He went on to share some insight into the inner workings of the news industry. Despite repeated acknowledgment of the unanswered questions concerning the events of September 11th, 2001, he declined to go on the record in support of a new investigation of 9/11 with the excuse that, every single thing I say has to go though media relationsreferring to media relations as a, meat grinder. An astute observer might wonder if media relations was involved or if he personally felt it appropriate as debate moderator to outright insult Ron Pauls electabilityasking, Do you have any, sir? during the 2008 Republican presidential debates.
Cameron, a notorious John Skull and Bones Kerry basher, seemed to revel in sharing an account of Nancy Pelosi calling Kerry a liar for having supported the trumped up claims that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Considering how Cameron was also the source of the allegation that Sarah Palin thought that Africa is a country rather than a continent, it seems that character assassination may be the name of the game.
Ironically, the conversation concluded with a reference to his encounter with We Are Change New York last year when he listened to their concerns at length but offered little to none of his own thoughts on the matter. He did, however, tip off the group to the nearby Phil Gramm. Come on guys, thats Phil Gramm why arent you busting his ass? He offered the following advice on confrontation:
Yeah, and I mean seriously, simply you guys help your own cause, and Im not saying you need to be rude to the people who are on your team, but if they tamp it down a little bit, I mean I got jumped in downtown New York by a bunch of 9/11 truthers and I talked with them for an hour and its still out there on the web and the thing is if wed had a quiet conversation, they mightve actually gotten something out of me that wouldve been better than me just telling them, Im not going to talk to you.
Lets hope more workers in the news industry do what they can to help expose the unanswered questions about 9/11if even to tip off the real reporters to opportunities to report on the real questions.
Cameron: The thing is, you guys get painted as conspiracy nuts because some of the people dont actually spend the time to read the facts, and you can give a number of facts to realize that its really hard to make the case that the buildings just imploded without some sort of an accelerant. So, in the emphasis of [inaudible] the accellerant, its a culprit. The unanswered questions are reasons to be skeptical.
What the office holders cant do lead to the conclusions because theyre office holders. I mean theres politics [inaudible] and so raising You guys shouldnt get painted as nutjobs because youre raising questions. But some of the guys who are on 9/11 truth squads and stuff like that, theyll say shit thats so far out there that it undermines the questions.
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Anthony: We just had one guy out We were just up there in New York and we had one of the guysone of those same guyscomes in and disrupted William Rodriguez, youve heard of him right?
Anthony: Just comes in and totally interrupts the speech
Adam: goes on about aliens and reptiles and stuffmakes us all look like were out of our minds, you know?
Cameron: The guys that I got my four part Israelis series on are serious, non-partisan government people, you know? They went out and whacked people on the other side of the presidents, Republican and Democrat, they do their job and then..
Cameron: Yeah. They do shit. There are bad guys in the government. Black Ops and stuff does happen. I mean, you know, Jack Bauer is a fuckin movie but it Twenty Four is a TV show but its but there are, its based in some stuff thats not just imagination and it has to be that way. I mean, it just has to be. So, it was just recently revealed that Bush had authorized an executive order that essentially wouldve taken Brown and Root guys and, the Black-uh, the Blackwell paid contractors overseas and turned them into hit men to go after Bin Laden.
Anthony: Do you mean Blackwater?
Cameron: Blackwater Now heres the thing. I reported that at the same time I reported the 9/11 stuffthat the president had signed an executive order that essentially wouldve permitted the possibility of hit squads. And, I put it out there. Ah, it went absolutely nowhere. Two years later a guy named Sy Hersch of the New Yorker wrote a very famous article about, Hey, you know what? Bush may have authorized hit squads. No shit! Told ya that after the attacks! And everybody was like, Whoa, it must be true. Now what happened was he signed an order that said, worse comes to worse, you walk into a bar and you see Bin Laden there at the corner of the table playing black jack, knife his ass in the back. Thats what they fuckin tell them. Now, thats a lot different than Dude walks into the cafe for a cup of tea in Morocco. Hes got a beard and hes six foot three, so they zero in a satellite and they say, wow, hes a lot taller than everybody and they nuke the village. It doesnt happen that way. You know? I mean I have to explain this to people every day that how do they keep missing that. You know? Its a good question. You guys should be wondering, Why the fuck do you keep doing that? Well, theres a reason. We see him in real time, thirty from six miles up in a satellite. By the time they launch the satellite from the gulf of Aden twelve hundred miles away, it takes a fuckin half an hour to get there. Hes long gone, and you kill a village worth of kids! So, you know, you understand that. But if you dont explain that to the average person who is just, you know, happy to keep listening, when I can see on TV that we know where he is
Adam: Its called moral hazard. I mean, of course, the reasons on the surface are going to be justifiable and common sense, but it leads to this gray for them to exploit.
Cameron: In addition to what I reported, we knew the day after 9/11 that the Russians had warned us. The Russians had warned us of the attacks in September. The French and the British had warned us of hijacking planes. The Israelis and the Germans hadnt, had warned us of a plane attack on the World Trade Centerall in the preceding eleven months. Now, you know, ninety nine times out of a hundred these warnings mean absolutely nothing. But these were like six, specific, generalized things, and they didnt check.
Now, I mean, I know you guys have done the research. You know, you have the FBI agent down in Arizona who let out the whole freakin warning before it happened.
Adam: Is that ONeil?
Theyre learning how to fly, theyre coming down to flight schools in Florida and theyre comin out here in their crop dusters and everything else. I mean, it was all there, but were a big fuckin countrywere a whole god-damn hemisphere! You know? I mean, it got lost between the cracks. And whether or not that was a deliberate conspiracy, or benign neglect or just rank government incompetence, you know, my feeling is you guys are right to bang the drum because we dont know. And just as a journalist, I talked to George Bush personally after 9/11. I talked to Harry Reid and John Kerry personally after 9/11. All three of them said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
Anthony: You personally did?
Cameron: Yeah, all three of them. Now, unbelievably enough, only two people in the entire Congress adamantly refused said that thats not true. Bob Graham, the former Democratic chairman from Florida of the intelligence committee who said there was no evidence, and Nancy Pelosi. Nanci Pelosi at a dinner one night told me that John Kerry was a fucking liar because he never saw the evidence in the report because she had looked at it. She was actually one of the ranking Democrats on the intelligence committee. Now who could believe Nancy freakin Pelosi? Shes from San Francisco, you know, shes a pacifist. But those other two who said adamantly Ive looked at every page, all the information and its just not there, and she outed Kerry who was running for president at the time. So
Adam: Weve actually got a DVD a buddy of mine madea film called Core of Corruption, a five part film, theyve released the first part so far. He could write a book on Bob Graham alone but it features Bob Graham in there and the dirt weve got on him. But ah, also with regards to whether or not the intelligence muck-up, and you know, incompetence, or whether there might be direct, uh, involvement, something that really bothers us is the Able Danger program and I was wondering you have any thoughts on that.
Cameron: No. I mean, theres always the concern that youre going to run into people who are not following real questions. There are questions that have yet to be answered. It doesnt make sense, that the President of the United States or the Congress of the United States will willfully lie to hurt Americans for the purposes of reelection or economic downturnthats a bridge too far. I can understand how people who are informed might be able to make that leap, but it undermines a valid pursuit of facts when you go too far to prove a point. Its like, I dont know if you guys have kids or anything, but you see a little kid throw a fucking tantrum in the grocery store because they want a box of milk. Theyre not going to get ittheyre going to get locked in the back of the car and slapped. You know, its, its
Adam: Well, just like the town hall meetings. Were always given grief because, you know, they think that were the ones that are shouting people down with the health care and we have nothing to do with it.
Were always the ones coming out patiently trying at a level volume voice, right, asking questions about these issues and you get these morons out there screaming and crying exactly like thatlike a child, and we get pushed into that category.
Cameron: Yep. My whole point of view is to point out that there are unanswered questions, and some of it has been answered, but a lot of it hasnt been.
Anthony: One thing that really scares me about that is say that this happened on purpose, or something like that, that it would be slowly [inaudible] and things like that and not just
Cameron: Right, I mean, and heres the other thing that you gotta remember too. Israel has been known as the country that spies on the United States more than any other. Now its not, its not national security spying, its mostly economic. They want to know what to do to make money and how things are going.
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Cameron: Frankly, Ive been disengaged with a handful of time of you guys who sort of come and try to bust me on street corners and stuff like that. The truth is I have not been involved in the national security stuff since, like, after the beginning of the war in 2002.
Adam: Sure. Youve got a job to do and theyre going to assign you to different things, and My question is, you know, I dont want to get you in trouble or anything like that. I youre willing wed like to get you just on the record for our web site, would you support a new investigation?
Cameron: Oh, I cant. Theres no way. I cant, I mean thats the kind of thing where if I were to do that, its not going to get its such a hassle for not having gone through media relations. Its not a question of content, um, but every single thing I say has to go though media relations and thats simply not I cant do interviews without I cant, I cant do interviews with like mainstream political magazines until its gone through that meat grinder. So
Anthony: Mainly we saw you and we just wanted to say thanks. You did a good job even though you
Cameron: Thanks very muchI appreciate it.
Yeah, and I mean seriously, simply you guys help your own cause, and Im not saying you need to be rude to the people who are on your team, but if they tamp it down a little bit, I mean I got jumped in downtown New York by a bunch of 9/11 truthers and I talked with them for an hour and its still out there on the web and the thing is if wed had a quiet conversation, they mightve actually gotten something out of me that wouldve been better than me just telling them, Im not going to talk to you. http://www.prisonplanet.com/carl-cameron-supports-questioning-911.html